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	<title>Comments on: The intentional marginalization of blogging in the corporate learning sector</title>
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		<title>By: Liam McCoy</title>
		<link>http://janetclarey.com/2010/03/14/the-intentional-marginalization-of-blogging-in-the-corporate-learning-sector/comment-page-1/#comment-6094</link>
		<dc:creator>Liam McCoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jun 2011 14:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a very intriguing idea. I think that reading and participating in blogs could be a great way for corporate learning to take place. It is hard to say how legit reading blogs are but I think that one day there will be a way to assess the validity/legitimacy of a blogs content. Can&#039;t wait to see where this takes us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a very intriguing idea. I think that reading and participating in blogs could be a great way for corporate learning to take place. It is hard to say how legit reading blogs are but I think that one day there will be a way to assess the validity/legitimacy of a blogs content. Can&#8217;t wait to see where this takes us.</p>
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		<title>By: jclarey</title>
		<link>http://janetclarey.com/2010/03/14/the-intentional-marginalization-of-blogging-in-the-corporate-learning-sector/comment-page-1/#comment-4207</link>
		<dc:creator>jclarey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Apr 2010 18:26:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Trying to convince someone to read (anything) can be a futile activity. Eventually, our current form of self-publishing our work (a blog) will be viewed as legit. Eventually.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trying to convince someone to read (anything) can be a futile activity. Eventually, our current form of self-publishing our work (a blog) will be viewed as legit. Eventually.</p>
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		<title>By: gminks</title>
		<link>http://janetclarey.com/2010/03/14/the-intentional-marginalization-of-blogging-in-the-corporate-learning-sector/comment-page-1/#comment-4204</link>
		<dc:creator>gminks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Apr 2010 06:51:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting post! One of the first papers I wrote in grad school was about using social networking to enhance learning in a corporate environment. My professor  tried to get it accepted into one of those journals but it didn&#039;t happen. I gave up on trying, blogging satisfies my need to write and connect. Now I have my main mentor telling me I need to get published - but I *am* published. And the article is published on my portfolio - maybe convincing L&amp;D leaders to read blogs is the answer?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting post! One of the first papers I wrote in grad school was about using social networking to enhance learning in a corporate environment. My professor  tried to get it accepted into one of those journals but it didn&#39;t happen. I gave up on trying, blogging satisfies my need to write and connect. Now I have my main mentor telling me I need to get published &#8211; but I *am* published. And the article is published on my portfolio &#8211; maybe convincing L&#038;D leaders to read blogs is the answer?</p>
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		<title>By: jclarey</title>
		<link>http://janetclarey.com/2010/03/14/the-intentional-marginalization-of-blogging-in-the-corporate-learning-sector/comment-page-1/#comment-4195</link>
		<dc:creator>jclarey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Mar 2010 17:25:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps they were Tony&#039;s words..&lt;a href=&quot;http://wadatripp.wordpress.com/2010/03/23/clo-magazine-in-conclusion-article/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;CLO&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps they were Tony&#39;s words..<a href="http://wadatripp.wordpress.com/2010/03/23/clo-magazine-in-conclusion-article/" rel="nofollow">CLO</a></p>
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		<title>By: jclarey</title>
		<link>http://janetclarey.com/2010/03/14/the-intentional-marginalization-of-blogging-in-the-corporate-learning-sector/comment-page-1/#comment-4192</link>
		<dc:creator>jclarey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Mar 2010 20:51:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another thing...the article used Tapscott as a source for net gen...a known source for perpetuating hype about the net gen and learning that is not supported by research.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;This from the writer of the article:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&quot;Three of the four were born after the launch of the Internet in 1962, and the Net Generation, born between January 1977 and December 1997, have been exposed to computers and digital media all their lives. Using these tools is as natural as the air they breath. &quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;That 1962 is not my typo. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I just don&#039;t have a lot of confidence in the article.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another thing&#8230;the article used Tapscott as a source for net gen&#8230;a known source for perpetuating hype about the net gen and learning that is not supported by research.</p>
<p>This from the writer of the article:</p>
<p>&#8220;Three of the four were born after the launch of the Internet in 1962, and the Net Generation, born between January 1977 and December 1997, have been exposed to computers and digital media all their lives. Using these tools is as natural as the air they breath. &#8220;</p>
<p>That 1962 is not my typo. </p>
<p>I just don&#39;t have a lot of confidence in the article.</p>
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		<title>By: jclarey</title>
		<link>http://janetclarey.com/2010/03/14/the-intentional-marginalization-of-blogging-in-the-corporate-learning-sector/comment-page-1/#comment-4193</link>
		<dc:creator>jclarey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Mar 2010 20:44:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The March 2010 edition of T&amp;D (ASTD publication) has an article written by Pat Galagan called &quot;The Vanishing Classroom.&quot; In it, she&#039;s interviewing Tony O&#039;Driscoll. Via email, I asked if the term &quot;subject matter networks&quot; was a term that Tony used or something Pat wrote (it wasn&#039;t in quotations so I appeared it was Pats). Paula Ketter confirmed that Pat wrote the term &quot;when Tony was talking about tapping into social networks to find experts.&quot;  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Perhaps Pat&#039;s use the term was her own. I don&#039;t now. I don&#039;t have her notes. You be the judge.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Here&#039;s the section verbatim:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Fuqua School of Management professor Tony O&#039;Driscoll believes there are at least four issues that are marginalizing the classroom as training&#039;s primary channel to market. &quot;The physical course package is becoming increasingly untenable as the true costs of travel and attendance are made more visible. Also the new emphasis on corporate social responsibility is putting pressure on the justification for travel,&quot; says O&#039;Driscoll. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;He notes that searching for information within the context of work activity is a lot easier than it used to be. &quot;Folks who are busy option for real-time information via Google rather than information packaged in courses on the LMS,&quot; he says. &lt;b&gt;Employees are also leveraging the poser of Web 2.0 technologies to tap into subject matter networks&lt;/b&gt;[emphasis mine].&quot;Got a problem? Post it on Facebook or Twitter, and wait for the cavalry to provide [the answer],&quot; says O&#039;Driscoll. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The fourth factor impinging on the classroom is relevance. &quot;In a time where the real expertise resides at the edge of the network, and training sits in the middle, it is often the case that the traditional training factory model of seconding SMEs and producing learning modules are teaching old habits as opposed to contemporary best practices.&lt;br&gt;T&amp;D is available to ASTD members only.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The March 2010 edition of T&#038;D (ASTD publication) has an article written by Pat Galagan called &#8220;The Vanishing Classroom.&#8221; In it, she&#39;s interviewing Tony O&#39;Driscoll. Via email, I asked if the term &#8220;subject matter networks&#8221; was a term that Tony used or something Pat wrote (it wasn&#39;t in quotations so I appeared it was Pats). Paula Ketter confirmed that Pat wrote the term &#8220;when Tony was talking about tapping into social networks to find experts.&#8221;  </p>
<p>Perhaps Pat&#39;s use the term was her own. I don&#39;t now. I don&#39;t have her notes. You be the judge.</p>
<p>Here&#39;s the section verbatim:</p>
<p>Fuqua School of Management professor Tony O&#39;Driscoll believes there are at least four issues that are marginalizing the classroom as training&#39;s primary channel to market. &#8220;The physical course package is becoming increasingly untenable as the true costs of travel and attendance are made more visible. Also the new emphasis on corporate social responsibility is putting pressure on the justification for travel,&#8221; says O&#39;Driscoll. </p>
<p>He notes that searching for information within the context of work activity is a lot easier than it used to be. &#8220;Folks who are busy option for real-time information via Google rather than information packaged in courses on the LMS,&#8221; he says. <b>Employees are also leveraging the poser of Web 2.0 technologies to tap into subject matter networks</b>[emphasis mine].&#8221;Got a problem? Post it on Facebook or Twitter, and wait for the cavalry to provide [the answer],&#8221; says O&#39;Driscoll. </p>
<p>The fourth factor impinging on the classroom is relevance. &#8220;In a time where the real expertise resides at the edge of the network, and training sits in the middle, it is often the case that the traditional training factory model of seconding SMEs and producing learning modules are teaching old habits as opposed to contemporary best practices.<br />T&#038;D is available to ASTD members only.</p>
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		<title>By: jclarey</title>
		<link>http://janetclarey.com/2010/03/14/the-intentional-marginalization-of-blogging-in-the-corporate-learning-sector/comment-page-1/#comment-4177</link>
		<dc:creator>jclarey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2010 17:03:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice to have found you too. I&#039;m sure I&#039;ll love what you write considering you&#039;re last update...Lady GaGa as a Service. LGGaaS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice to have found you too. I&#39;m sure I&#39;ll love what you write considering you&#39;re last update&#8230;Lady GaGa as a Service. LGGaaS.</p>
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		<title>By: scottabel</title>
		<link>http://janetclarey.com/2010/03/14/the-intentional-marginalization-of-blogging-in-the-corporate-learning-sector/comment-page-1/#comment-4173</link>
		<dc:creator>scottabel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2010 08:59:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post. Just discovered your blog. I&#039;m planning on trying to fit it in to a blog post on my site or in my upcoming book, Social Networking 101.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Thanks for the good information.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post. Just discovered your blog. I&#39;m planning on trying to fit it in to a blog post on my site or in my upcoming book, Social Networking 101.</p>
<p>Thanks for the good information.</p>
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		<title>By: The intentional marginalization of blogging in the corporate learning sector&#160;&#124;&#160;weiterbildungsblog</title>
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		<dc:creator>The intentional marginalization of blogging in the corporate learning sector&#160;&#124;&#160;weiterbildungsblog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2010 07:14:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Ich selbst bin an dieser Stelle hin- und hergerissen. An vielen Stellen ist die &#8220;Welt&#8221; heute und hierzulande sehr durchlässig geworden. Es gibt Überschneidungen und wechselseitiges Wahrnehmen, und gerade Fachzeitschriften können an vielen Stellen gar nicht anders, als aktuelle Entwicklungen wie z.B. das Bloggen aufzunehmen. Es gibt aber auch in der Weiterbildung eine institutionalisierte Fachöffentlichkeit, in der Social Media und Blogs keine Rolle spielen. Ob man das &#8220;Marginalisierung&#8221; nennen möchte, ist eine andere Frage. Janet Clarey, &#8230; spinning the social web, 14. März 2010  [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Ich selbst bin an dieser Stelle hin- und hergerissen. An vielen Stellen ist die &#8220;Welt&#8221; heute und hierzulande sehr durchlässig geworden. Es gibt Überschneidungen und wechselseitiges Wahrnehmen, und gerade Fachzeitschriften können an vielen Stellen gar nicht anders, als aktuelle Entwicklungen wie z.B. das Bloggen aufzunehmen. Es gibt aber auch in der Weiterbildung eine institutionalisierte Fachöffentlichkeit, in der Social Media und Blogs keine Rolle spielen. Ob man das &#8220;Marginalisierung&#8221; nennen möchte, ist eine andere Frage. Janet Clarey, &#8230; spinning the social web, 14. März 2010  [...]</p>
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		<title>By: jclarey</title>
		<link>http://janetclarey.com/2010/03/14/the-intentional-marginalization-of-blogging-in-the-corporate-learning-sector/comment-page-1/#comment-4168</link>
		<dc:creator>jclarey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 05:37:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve contacted the writer to give them a change to address it (the use of SMNs). I&#039;ll pass that along when I hear back. Love your response here uber geek.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#39;ve contacted the writer to give them a change to address it (the use of SMNs). I&#39;ll pass that along when I hear back. Love your response here uber geek.</p>
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