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		<title>By: Janet Clarey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Janet Clarey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 11:55:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m so jealous that you&#039;re going to BlogHer Liz!

Our recent conference had two women keynoters and two men keynoters. The sessions were well represented with somewhat more men than women. It felt more balanced than some other conferences. Perhaps more women are answering calls for proposals now or something. I&#039;ll see some conference lineups and just wonder if there will be any women in attendance at all!

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m so jealous that you&#8217;re going to BlogHer Liz!</p>
<p>Our recent conference had two women keynoters and two men keynoters. The sessions were well represented with somewhat more men than women. It felt more balanced than some other conferences. Perhaps more women are answering calls for proposals now or something. I&#8217;ll see some conference lineups and just wonder if there will be any women in attendance at all!</p>
<p>Glad to hear you&#8217;re presenting!</p>
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		<title>By: Janet Clarey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Janet Clarey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 11:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m so jealous that you&#039;re going to BlogHer Liz!

Our recent conference had two women keynoters and two men keynoters. The sessions were well represented with somewhat more men than women. It felt more balanced than some other conferences. Perhaps more women are answering calls for proposals now or something. I&#039;ll see some conference lineups and just wonder if there will be any women in attendance at all!

Glad to hear you&#039;re presenting!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m so jealous that you&#8217;re going to BlogHer Liz!</p>
<p>Our recent conference had two women keynoters and two men keynoters. The sessions were well represented with somewhat more men than women. It felt more balanced than some other conferences. Perhaps more women are answering calls for proposals now or something. I&#8217;ll see some conference lineups and just wonder if there will be any women in attendance at all!</p>
<p>Glad to hear you&#8217;re presenting!</p>
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		<title>By: Liz Davis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Liz Davis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 01:26:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This discussion is very timely for me, as I am about to attend a BlogHer conference this weekend. I&#039;m sure I will have more to say about this after the weekend.

I have felt some level of gender inequity in the edtech world for a while. I see it primarily at conferences. It seems like 90% of the keynote speakers are male (I have no hard evidence for this).

As a mother of young children, I can&#039;t get out to many conferences. This year, I&#039;m presenting more than I ever have. But dare I say, it is harder for moms to travel the way dads can, and presenting/keynoting at conferences is an important way to be heard and known. Plus Keynote speakers get paid!

It was nice to see myself listed in Zaid&#039;s second post (probably thanks to you Janet). Better late than never.
-Liz

Liz Daviss last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/ThePowerOfEducationalTechnology/~3/414098854/two-for-tuesday-10-7-08.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Two For Tuesday 10-7-08&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This discussion is very timely for me, as I am about to attend a BlogHer conference this weekend. I&#8217;m sure I will have more to say about this after the weekend.</p>
<p>I have felt some level of gender inequity in the edtech world for a while. I see it primarily at conferences. It seems like 90% of the keynote speakers are male (I have no hard evidence for this).</p>
<p>As a mother of young children, I can&#8217;t get out to many conferences. This year, I&#8217;m presenting more than I ever have. But dare I say, it is harder for moms to travel the way dads can, and presenting/keynoting at conferences is an important way to be heard and known. Plus Keynote speakers get paid!</p>
<p>It was nice to see myself listed in Zaid&#8217;s second post (probably thanks to you Janet). Better late than never.<br />
-Liz</p>
<p>Liz Daviss last blog post..<a href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/ThePowerOfEducationalTechnology/~3/414098854/two-for-tuesday-10-7-08.html" rel="nofollow">Two For Tuesday 10-7-08</a></p>
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		<title>By: Liz Davis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Liz Davis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 01:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This discussion is very timely for me, as I am about to attend a BlogHer conference this weekend. I&#039;m sure I will have more to say about this after the weekend.

I have felt some level of gender inequity in the edtech world for a while. I see it primarily at conferences. It seems like 90% of the keynote speakers are male (I have no hard evidence for this).

As a mother of young children, I can&#039;t get out to many conferences. This year, I&#039;m presenting more than I ever have. But dare I say, it is harder for moms to travel the way dads can, and presenting/keynoting at conferences is an important way to be heard and known. Plus Keynote speakers get paid!

It was nice to see myself listed in Zaid&#039;s second post (probably thanks to you Janet). Better late than never.
-Liz

Liz Daviss last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/ThePowerOfEducationalTechnology/~3/414098854/two-for-tuesday-10-7-08.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Two For Tuesday 10-7-08&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This discussion is very timely for me, as I am about to attend a BlogHer conference this weekend. I&#8217;m sure I will have more to say about this after the weekend.</p>
<p>I have felt some level of gender inequity in the edtech world for a while. I see it primarily at conferences. It seems like 90% of the keynote speakers are male (I have no hard evidence for this).</p>
<p>As a mother of young children, I can&#8217;t get out to many conferences. This year, I&#8217;m presenting more than I ever have. But dare I say, it is harder for moms to travel the way dads can, and presenting/keynoting at conferences is an important way to be heard and known. Plus Keynote speakers get paid!</p>
<p>It was nice to see myself listed in Zaid&#8217;s second post (probably thanks to you Janet). Better late than never.<br />
-Liz</p>
<p>Liz Daviss last blog post..<a href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/ThePowerOfEducationalTechnology/~3/414098854/two-for-tuesday-10-7-08.html" rel="nofollow">Two For Tuesday 10-7-08</a></p>
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		<title>By: Janet Clarey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Janet Clarey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 11:06:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Karl- Thanks for those great comments. On the last point...PhD study. I struggle with articulating why this is important (other than to me). If data were gathered and analyzed what question would be answered? [Because Joe has more links to men and Jane has more links to women...what?]

@Sue - I am reminded of BlogHer coverage being placed on the Fashion page in the NY Times. If you don&#039;t say something about that &#039;error&#039;  no one notices. If you mention it, perhaps someone will notice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Karl- Thanks for those great comments. On the last point&#8230;PhD study. I struggle with articulating why this is important (other than to me). If data were gathered and analyzed what question would be answered? [Because Joe has more links to men and Jane has more links to women...what?]</p>
<p>@Sue &#8211; I am reminded of BlogHer coverage being placed on the Fashion page in the NY Times. If you don&#8217;t say something about that &#8216;error&#8217;  no one notices. If you mention it, perhaps someone will notice.</p>
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		<title>By: Janet Clarey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Janet Clarey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 11:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Karl- Thanks for those great comments. On the last point...PhD study. I struggle with articulating why this is important (other than to me). If data were gathered and analyzed what question would be answered? [Because Joe has more links to men and Jane has more links to women...what?]

@Sue - I am reminded of BlogHer coverage being placed on the Fashion page in the NY Times. If you don&#039;t say something about that &#039;error&#039;  no one notices. If you mention it, perhaps someone will notice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Karl- Thanks for those great comments. On the last point&#8230;PhD study. I struggle with articulating why this is important (other than to me). If data were gathered and analyzed what question would be answered? [Because Joe has more links to men and Jane has more links to women...what?]</p>
<p>@Sue &#8211; I am reminded of BlogHer coverage being placed on the Fashion page in the NY Times. If you don&#8217;t say something about that &#8216;error&#8217;  no one notices. If you mention it, perhaps someone will notice.</p>
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		<title>By: Sue Waters</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sue Waters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 10:48:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Personal information aids readers make a connection with you as a real person. This helps conversations and build your blog community. But it also get back to your blog and what you are trying to achieve.  I share a lot of personal information on my personal blog but don&#039;t on &lt;a href=&quot;http://theedublogger.edublogs.org/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Edublogger&lt;/a&gt; - different audiences with different objectives.

No problem with one person&#039;s list based on the personal preference of one individual.  But it concerns me that others who promoted it as top 25 Edublogs via Twitter and blog posts never considered this aspect. And that isn&#039;t Zaid&#039;s fault.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Personal information aids readers make a connection with you as a real person. This helps conversations and build your blog community. But it also get back to your blog and what you are trying to achieve.  I share a lot of personal information on my personal blog but don&#8217;t on <a href="http://theedublogger.edublogs.org/" rel="nofollow">The Edublogger</a> &#8211; different audiences with different objectives.</p>
<p>No problem with one person&#8217;s list based on the personal preference of one individual.  But it concerns me that others who promoted it as top 25 Edublogs via Twitter and blog posts never considered this aspect. And that isn&#8217;t Zaid&#8217;s fault.</p>
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		<title>By: Sue Waters</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sue Waters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 10:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Personal information aids readers make a connection with you as a real person. This helps conversations and build your blog community. But it also get back to your blog and what you are trying to achieve.  I share a lot of personal information on my personal blog but don&#039;t on &lt;a href=&quot;http://theedublogger.edublogs.org/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Edublogger&lt;/a&gt; - different audiences with different objectives.

No problem with one person&#039;s list based on the personal preference of one individual.  But it concerns me that others who promoted it as top 25 Edublogs via Twitter and blog posts never considered this aspect. And that isn&#039;t Zaid&#039;s fault.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Personal information aids readers make a connection with you as a real person. This helps conversations and build your blog community. But it also get back to your blog and what you are trying to achieve.  I share a lot of personal information on my personal blog but don&#8217;t on <a href="http://theedublogger.edublogs.org/" rel="nofollow">The Edublogger</a> &#8211; different audiences with different objectives.</p>
<p>No problem with one person&#8217;s list based on the personal preference of one individual.  But it concerns me that others who promoted it as top 25 Edublogs via Twitter and blog posts never considered this aspect. And that isn&#8217;t Zaid&#8217;s fault.</p>
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		<title>By: Karl Kapp</title>
		<link>http://janetclarey.com/2008/09/26/on-growing-facial-hair/comment-page-1/#comment-3441</link>
		<dc:creator>Karl Kapp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 21:20:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Janet et al.,

Interesting discussion. It really got me thinking about why some people read some blogs and what drives the decision to include personal information or not. Also, it got me thinking about how these lists are formed and what is the impact?

It seems to me that once you have a list of &quot;top 10&quot; or whatever, the same information is then repeated in different lists over and over again which really doesn&#039;t seem to expand knowledge. So are they of value and to whom? And should one person&#039;s list influence or concern anyone else? What authority is used to create the list and, more importantly, what criteria inform the choices?

On the other hand, hey, it is just one guy&#039;s list. Someone who wants to contribute to the blogosphere. Finding offense with his list is like telling someone you don&#039;t like the food they eat. Hey, its their food, right, wrong or otherwise. You might not like it but...you don&#039;t have to eat it. So let him have his list...it&#039;s his.

The right answer, don&#039;t know. All I know is that people love their lists and others love to pick apart the list...for example, I wasn&#039;t listed on  Zaid&#039;s list. What am I too think, did I not make the cut, did I offend him, am I not good enough? Or did he not even know my blog existed. I think the point is I should not worry about it. It is Zaid&#039;s list he can create it however he chooses.

Switching gears, I tend to think that some degree of personal information is a good thing as it can be linked to the topic and we all have a professional and personal life (although sometimes it feels all profesional.)

My favorite entry on my blog is the one about my wife being a &quot;Guitar Hero&quot; a great link of personal and professional messages. And I mentioned my two gamer boys in many of my posts and they both contributed to my latest book. I think personal and professional can and should exist side-by-side.

On the topic of men bloggers and women bloggers, I did a quick count of my blog roll. I counted 50 people on my roll and 18 are blogs written by women (I now have 51..I added your blog). So I think that is about 37% are women on my blog roll. The rest are men, 63%.

So, not sure what that says about my blog or me but it might be an interesting thing to see what the average number is on different people&#039;s blogs. Do men tend to have more men and women more women? What is the average % of the other gender on a person&#039;s blog...am I high or low?

Or is it a more subtle difference, content related, empathy for the blogger, style, etc. I don&#039;t know the answer but it would be an interesting PhD study.

Good discussion.

Karl Kapps last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://karlkapp.blogspot.com/2008/10/time-to-learn-basic-physics-then-time.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Time to Learn Basic Physics? Then Time for an Online Game&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Janet et al.,</p>
<p>Interesting discussion. It really got me thinking about why some people read some blogs and what drives the decision to include personal information or not. Also, it got me thinking about how these lists are formed and what is the impact?</p>
<p>It seems to me that once you have a list of &#8220;top 10&#8243; or whatever, the same information is then repeated in different lists over and over again which really doesn&#8217;t seem to expand knowledge. So are they of value and to whom? And should one person&#8217;s list influence or concern anyone else? What authority is used to create the list and, more importantly, what criteria inform the choices?</p>
<p>On the other hand, hey, it is just one guy&#8217;s list. Someone who wants to contribute to the blogosphere. Finding offense with his list is like telling someone you don&#8217;t like the food they eat. Hey, its their food, right, wrong or otherwise. You might not like it but&#8230;you don&#8217;t have to eat it. So let him have his list&#8230;it&#8217;s his.</p>
<p>The right answer, don&#8217;t know. All I know is that people love their lists and others love to pick apart the list&#8230;for example, I wasn&#8217;t listed on  Zaid&#8217;s list. What am I too think, did I not make the cut, did I offend him, am I not good enough? Or did he not even know my blog existed. I think the point is I should not worry about it. It is Zaid&#8217;s list he can create it however he chooses.</p>
<p>Switching gears, I tend to think that some degree of personal information is a good thing as it can be linked to the topic and we all have a professional and personal life (although sometimes it feels all profesional.)</p>
<p>My favorite entry on my blog is the one about my wife being a &#8220;Guitar Hero&#8221; a great link of personal and professional messages. And I mentioned my two gamer boys in many of my posts and they both contributed to my latest book. I think personal and professional can and should exist side-by-side.</p>
<p>On the topic of men bloggers and women bloggers, I did a quick count of my blog roll. I counted 50 people on my roll and 18 are blogs written by women (I now have 51..I added your blog). So I think that is about 37% are women on my blog roll. The rest are men, 63%.</p>
<p>So, not sure what that says about my blog or me but it might be an interesting thing to see what the average number is on different people&#8217;s blogs. Do men tend to have more men and women more women? What is the average % of the other gender on a person&#8217;s blog&#8230;am I high or low?</p>
<p>Or is it a more subtle difference, content related, empathy for the blogger, style, etc. I don&#8217;t know the answer but it would be an interesting PhD study.</p>
<p>Good discussion.</p>
<p>Karl Kapps last blog post..<a href="http://karlkapp.blogspot.com/2008/10/time-to-learn-basic-physics-then-time.html" rel="nofollow">Time to Learn Basic Physics? Then Time for an Online Game</a></p>
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		<title>By: Karl Kapp</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karl Kapp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 21:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Janet et al.,

Interesting discussion. It really got me thinking about why some people read some blogs and what drives the decision to include personal information or not. Also, it got me thinking about how these lists are formed and what is the impact?

It seems to me that once you have a list of &quot;top 10&quot; or whatever, the same information is then repeated in different lists over and over again which really doesn&#039;t seem to expand knowledge. So are they of value and to whom? And should one person&#039;s list influence or concern anyone else? What authority is used to create the list and, more importantly, what criteria inform the choices?

On the other hand, hey, it is just one guy&#039;s list. Someone who wants to contribute to the blogosphere. Finding offense with his list is like telling someone you don&#039;t like the food they eat. Hey, its their food, right, wrong or otherwise. You might not like it but...you don&#039;t have to eat it. So let him have his list...it&#039;s his.

The right answer, don&#039;t know. All I know is that people love their lists and others love to pick apart the list...for example, I wasn&#039;t listed on  Zaid&#039;s list. What am I too think, did I not make the cut, did I offend him, am I not good enough? Or did he not even know my blog existed. I think the point is I should not worry about it. It is Zaid&#039;s list he can create it however he chooses.

Switching gears, I tend to think that some degree of personal information is a good thing as it can be linked to the topic and we all have a professional and personal life (although sometimes it feels all profesional.)

My favorite entry on my blog is the one about my wife being a &quot;Guitar Hero&quot; a great link of personal and professional messages. And I mentioned my two gamer boys in many of my posts and they both contributed to my latest book. I think personal and professional can and should exist side-by-side.

On the topic of men bloggers and women bloggers, I did a quick count of my blog roll. I counted 50 people on my roll and 18 are blogs written by women (I now have 51..I added your blog). So I think that is about 37% are women on my blog roll. The rest are men, 63%.

So, not sure what that says about my blog or me but it might be an interesting thing to see what the average number is on different people&#039;s blogs. Do men tend to have more men and women more women? What is the average % of the other gender on a person&#039;s blog...am I high or low?

Or is it a more subtle difference, content related, empathy for the blogger, style, etc. I don&#039;t know the answer but it would be an interesting PhD study.

Good discussion.

Karl Kapps last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://karlkapp.blogspot.com/2008/10/time-to-learn-basic-physics-then-time.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Time to Learn Basic Physics? Then Time for an Online Game&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Janet et al.,</p>
<p>Interesting discussion. It really got me thinking about why some people read some blogs and what drives the decision to include personal information or not. Also, it got me thinking about how these lists are formed and what is the impact?</p>
<p>It seems to me that once you have a list of &#8220;top 10&#8243; or whatever, the same information is then repeated in different lists over and over again which really doesn&#8217;t seem to expand knowledge. So are they of value and to whom? And should one person&#8217;s list influence or concern anyone else? What authority is used to create the list and, more importantly, what criteria inform the choices?</p>
<p>On the other hand, hey, it is just one guy&#8217;s list. Someone who wants to contribute to the blogosphere. Finding offense with his list is like telling someone you don&#8217;t like the food they eat. Hey, its their food, right, wrong or otherwise. You might not like it but&#8230;you don&#8217;t have to eat it. So let him have his list&#8230;it&#8217;s his.</p>
<p>The right answer, don&#8217;t know. All I know is that people love their lists and others love to pick apart the list&#8230;for example, I wasn&#8217;t listed on  Zaid&#8217;s list. What am I too think, did I not make the cut, did I offend him, am I not good enough? Or did he not even know my blog existed. I think the point is I should not worry about it. It is Zaid&#8217;s list he can create it however he chooses.</p>
<p>Switching gears, I tend to think that some degree of personal information is a good thing as it can be linked to the topic and we all have a professional and personal life (although sometimes it feels all profesional.)</p>
<p>My favorite entry on my blog is the one about my wife being a &#8220;Guitar Hero&#8221; a great link of personal and professional messages. And I mentioned my two gamer boys in many of my posts and they both contributed to my latest book. I think personal and professional can and should exist side-by-side.</p>
<p>On the topic of men bloggers and women bloggers, I did a quick count of my blog roll. I counted 50 people on my roll and 18 are blogs written by women (I now have 51..I added your blog). So I think that is about 37% are women on my blog roll. The rest are men, 63%.</p>
<p>So, not sure what that says about my blog or me but it might be an interesting thing to see what the average number is on different people&#8217;s blogs. Do men tend to have more men and women more women? What is the average % of the other gender on a person&#8217;s blog&#8230;am I high or low?</p>
<p>Or is it a more subtle difference, content related, empathy for the blogger, style, etc. I don&#8217;t know the answer but it would be an interesting PhD study.</p>
<p>Good discussion.</p>
<p>Karl Kapps last blog post..<a href="http://karlkapp.blogspot.com/2008/10/time-to-learn-basic-physics-then-time.html" rel="nofollow">Time to Learn Basic Physics? Then Time for an Online Game</a></p>
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