Comments on: Making a Space for Disruption http://janetclarey.com/2007/12/28/making-a-space-for-disruption/ Spinning the Social Web Thu, 17 May 2012 05:40:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Janet Clarey http://janetclarey.com/2007/12/28/making-a-space-for-disruption/comment-page-1/#comment-4003 Janet Clarey Sun, 21 Feb 2010 03:49:47 +0000 http://janetclarey.com/?p=350#comment-4003 Re: "are the talent-management vendors selling to trainers who now have broader HR interests… or, are the talent-management vendors selling to HR departments with the thought that the trainers will use the training modules..."<br><br>My answer: yes. both. And it can lead to an HR dept with a training problem or a training dept with an HR problem. This is where the SaaS model comes in to play...<br><br>One example of the problem is this: at the point of implementation of Phase 3 of a system (1-LMS, 2-LCMS, 3-Talent Management) the training dept. learns the HR dept. has been working on its own implementation of a new compensation system. The compensation system feeds into the performance management system and wasn't compatible with the new talent management system. Yuk. Normally compensation types wouldn't have to work directly with training types...<br><br>All that is changing...I think this is where traditional organizational hierarchy is a problem. Silos create this type of problem. You can be working on making fire all year...only to find out that the guy down the hall is making the same type of fire. I think the key is to get the hub - IT - involved in the process early - even if the system is hosted. That and, have lunch with people from outside your department. Re: “are the talent-management vendors selling to trainers who now have broader HR interests… or, are the talent-management vendors selling to HR departments with the thought that the trainers will use the training modules…”

My answer: yes. both. And it can lead to an HR dept with a training problem or a training dept with an HR problem. This is where the SaaS model comes in to play…

One example of the problem is this: at the point of implementation of Phase 3 of a system (1-LMS, 2-LCMS, 3-Talent Management) the training dept. learns the HR dept. has been working on its own implementation of a new compensation system. The compensation system feeds into the performance management system and wasn't compatible with the new talent management system. Yuk. Normally compensation types wouldn't have to work directly with training types…

All that is changing…I think this is where traditional organizational hierarchy is a problem. Silos create this type of problem. You can be working on making fire all year…only to find out that the guy down the hall is making the same type of fire. I think the key is to get the hub – IT – involved in the process early – even if the system is hosted. That and, have lunch with people from outside your department.

]]> By: Janet Clarey http://janetclarey.com/2007/12/28/making-a-space-for-disruption/comment-page-1/#comment-2607 Janet Clarey Thu, 03 Jan 2008 20:53:40 +0000 http://janetclarey.com/?p=350#comment-2607 Thanks so much for the link Michael. I marked it to read in depth (actually the whole series). I did notice quote from the first paragraph which supports what Dave is saying...we'll call it the 'Burgess' factor..."Know-who information rather than know-what, know-how or know-why information has become most crucial." Thanks so much for the link Michael. I marked it to read in depth (actually the whole series). I did notice quote from the first paragraph which supports what Dave is saying…we’ll call it the ‘Burgess’ factor…”Know-who information rather than know-what, know-how or know-why information has become most crucial.”

]]> By: Janet Clarey http://janetclarey.com/2007/12/28/making-a-space-for-disruption/comment-page-1/#comment-4937 Janet Clarey Thu, 03 Jan 2008 20:53:00 +0000 http://janetclarey.com/?p=350#comment-4937 Thanks so much for the link Michael. I marked it to read in depth (actually the whole series). I did notice quote from the first paragraph which supports what Dave is saying...we'll call it the 'Burgess' factor..."Know-who information rather than know-what, know-how or know-why information has become most crucial." Thanks so much for the link Michael. I marked it to read in depth (actually the whole series). I did notice quote from the first paragraph which supports what Dave is saying…we’ll call it the ‘Burgess’ factor…”Know-who information rather than know-what, know-how or know-why information has become most crucial.”

]]> By: Janet Clarey http://janetclarey.com/2007/12/28/making-a-space-for-disruption/comment-page-1/#comment-4938 Janet Clarey Thu, 03 Jan 2008 20:53:00 +0000 http://janetclarey.com/?p=350#comment-4938 Thanks so much for the link Michael. I marked it to read in depth (actually the whole series). I did notice quote from the first paragraph which supports what Dave is saying...we'll call it the 'Burgess' factor..."Know-who information rather than know-what, know-how or know-why information has become most crucial." Thanks so much for the link Michael. I marked it to read in depth (actually the whole series). I did notice quote from the first paragraph which supports what Dave is saying…we’ll call it the ‘Burgess’ factor…”Know-who information rather than know-what, know-how or know-why information has become most crucial.”

]]> By: Janet Clarey http://janetclarey.com/2007/12/28/making-a-space-for-disruption/comment-page-1/#comment-2606 Janet Clarey Thu, 03 Jan 2008 20:48:05 +0000 http://janetclarey.com/?p=350#comment-2606 Thanks Dave. Sounds like an interesting book. I'll have to put it on my reading list. I'm reasonably certain that I don't belong to enough 'worlds'...apparently my kids are already aware of this since they often say, "you don't know everything!" Seriously, there have been time periods in my life where I have gotten so caught up in communicating electronically that I lost site of the value of eating lunch with someone outside my world. I strongly believe in the idea of becoming a hub and that suggests 'knowing everything.' Thanks Dave. Sounds like an interesting book. I’ll have to put it on my reading list.

I’m reasonably certain that I don’t belong to enough ‘worlds’…apparently my kids are already aware of this since they often say, “you don’t know everything!”

Seriously, there have been time periods in my life where I have gotten so caught up in communicating electronically that I lost site of the value of eating lunch with someone outside my world.

I strongly believe in the idea of becoming a hub and that suggests ‘knowing everything.’

]]> By: Janet Clarey http://janetclarey.com/2007/12/28/making-a-space-for-disruption/comment-page-1/#comment-4935 Janet Clarey Thu, 03 Jan 2008 20:48:00 +0000 http://janetclarey.com/?p=350#comment-4935 Thanks Dave. Sounds like an interesting book. I'll have to put it on my reading list. I'm reasonably certain that I don't belong to enough 'worlds'...apparently my kids are already aware of this since they often say, "you don't know everything!" Seriously, there have been time periods in my life where I have gotten so caught up in communicating electronically that I lost site of the value of eating lunch with someone outside my world. I strongly believe in the idea of becoming a hub and that suggests 'knowing everything.' Thanks Dave. Sounds like an interesting book. I’ll have to put it on my reading list.

I’m reasonably certain that I don’t belong to enough ‘worlds’…apparently my kids are already aware of this since they often say, “you don’t know everything!”

Seriously, there have been time periods in my life where I have gotten so caught up in communicating electronically that I lost site of the value of eating lunch with someone outside my world.

I strongly believe in the idea of becoming a hub and that suggests ‘knowing everything.’

]]> By: Janet Clarey http://janetclarey.com/2007/12/28/making-a-space-for-disruption/comment-page-1/#comment-4936 Janet Clarey Thu, 03 Jan 2008 20:48:00 +0000 http://janetclarey.com/?p=350#comment-4936 Thanks Dave. Sounds like an interesting book. I'll have to put it on my reading list. I'm reasonably certain that I don't belong to enough 'worlds'...apparently my kids are already aware of this since they often say, "you don't know everything!" Seriously, there have been time periods in my life where I have gotten so caught up in communicating electronically that I lost site of the value of eating lunch with someone outside my world. I strongly believe in the idea of becoming a hub and that suggests 'knowing everything.' Thanks Dave. Sounds like an interesting book. I’ll have to put it on my reading list.

I’m reasonably certain that I don’t belong to enough ‘worlds’…apparently my kids are already aware of this since they often say, “you don’t know everything!”

Seriously, there have been time periods in my life where I have gotten so caught up in communicating electronically that I lost site of the value of eating lunch with someone outside my world.

I strongly believe in the idea of becoming a hub and that suggests ‘knowing everything.’

]]> By: Michael Maier http://janetclarey.com/2007/12/28/making-a-space-for-disruption/comment-page-1/#comment-2605 Michael Maier Thu, 03 Jan 2008 20:14:48 +0000 http://janetclarey.com/?p=350#comment-2605 This is a useful read on Social Networks and how they function. <a href="http://www.boxesandarrows.com/view/social-networks" rel="nofollow"> Social Networks And Group Formation</a> Theoretical Concepts to Leverage by Shiv Singh This is a useful read on Social Networks and how they function.
Social Networks And Group Formation
Theoretical Concepts to Leverage
by Shiv Singh

]]> By: Michael Maier http://janetclarey.com/2007/12/28/making-a-space-for-disruption/comment-page-1/#comment-4933 Michael Maier Thu, 03 Jan 2008 20:14:00 +0000 http://janetclarey.com/?p=350#comment-4933 This is a useful read on Social Networks and how they function. <a href="http://www.boxesandarrows.com/view/social-networks" rel="nofollow"> Social Networks And Group Formation</a> Theoretical Concepts to Leverage by Shiv Singh This is a useful read on Social Networks and how they function.
Social Networks And Group Formation
Theoretical Concepts to Leverage
by Shiv Singh

]]> By: Michael Maier http://janetclarey.com/2007/12/28/making-a-space-for-disruption/comment-page-1/#comment-4934 Michael Maier Thu, 03 Jan 2008 20:14:00 +0000 http://janetclarey.com/?p=350#comment-4934 This is a useful read on Social Networks and how they function. <a href="http://www.boxesandarrows.com/view/social-networks" rel="nofollow"> Social Networks And Group Formation</a> Theoretical Concepts to Leverage by Shiv Singh This is a useful read on Social Networks and how they function.
Social Networks And Group Formation
Theoretical Concepts to Leverage
by Shiv Singh

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