Comments on: I do not work in the nude and other issues with working (and learning) online http://janetclarey.com/2007/08/02/i-do-not-work-in-the-nude-and-other-issues-with-working-and-learning-online/ Spinning the Social Web Sat, 21 Jan 2012 02:24:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Recap: Women in the edublogosphere 2007 — Janet Clarey http://janetclarey.com/2007/08/02/i-do-not-work-in-the-nude-and-other-issues-with-working-and-learning-online/comment-page-1/#comment-4189 Recap: Women in the edublogosphere 2007 — Janet Clarey Fri, 19 Mar 2010 17:14:38 +0000 http://janetclarey.com/?p=292#comment-4189 [...] I say touch while enjoying the irony of a black lace bra photo that probably led to more hits (as mine did). [...] [...] I say touch while enjoying the irony of a black lace bra photo that probably led to more hits (as mine did). [...]

]]> By: Managing the mobile workforce – why don’t they just follow the learning profession? — Janet Clarey http://janetclarey.com/2007/08/02/i-do-not-work-in-the-nude-and-other-issues-with-working-and-learning-online/comment-page-1/#comment-4182 Managing the mobile workforce – why don’t they just follow the learning profession? — Janet Clarey Fri, 19 Mar 2010 16:06:28 +0000 http://janetclarey.com/?p=292#comment-4182 [...] a prior post I wrote about working and learning online. It generated some comments about isolation (while [...] [...] a prior post I wrote about working and learning online. It generated some comments about isolation (while [...]

]]> By: Useful Links - “Let’s light this candle” Edition : The Anywhere Office http://janetclarey.com/2007/08/02/i-do-not-work-in-the-nude-and-other-issues-with-working-and-learning-online/comment-page-1/#comment-2366 Useful Links - “Let’s light this candle” Edition : The Anywhere Office Thu, 26 Feb 2009 18:31:53 +0000 http://janetclarey.com/?p=292#comment-2366 [...] I do not work in the nude and other issues with working (and learning) online: In this article Janet Clarey looks at some of the similarities between working at home and ‘e-learning’ at the office. She offers solutions to some of the common problems and misconceptions. [...] [...] I do not work in the nude and other issues with working (and learning) online: In this article Janet Clarey looks at some of the similarities between working at home and ‘e-learning’ at the office. She offers solutions to some of the common problems and misconceptions. [...]

]]> By: Dave Ferguson http://janetclarey.com/2007/08/02/i-do-not-work-in-the-nude-and-other-issues-with-working-and-learning-online/comment-page-1/#comment-2365 Dave Ferguson Mon, 20 Aug 2007 19:40:51 +0000 http://janetclarey.com/?p=292#comment-2365 Janet: I agree that ultimately it's the individual's responsibility. Even so, those whose job includes helping the group/organization get stuff done <i>(manager (noun): someone who gets other people to do the work)</i> can help bridge the gap (chasm?) between theory and practice. Not something that'll happen because the CEO says so, in most places; it's more that the immediate supervisor / manager / director / AVP shows through actions that Acme Widgets sees learning as part of each person's job. I suppose it's part of organization culture, which I think has to be cultivated in small areas as wel as large. When I worked for GE, the people at many meetings I attended arrived on time, stuck to the agenda, agreed to pursue side issues offline. Not every person, not every meeting, but there tended to be a supportive expectation (if you will) that this was how we worked in meetings. On an individual level, I did find it helpful to listen to CDs via headphones. Over time, my most interruption-prone coworker came to see the headphones as meaning "sorry, I'm busy." Sort of a combination headband and cone of silence... Janet:

I agree that ultimately it’s the individual’s responsibility. Even so, those whose job includes helping the group/organization get stuff done (manager (noun): someone who gets other people to do the work) can help bridge the gap (chasm?) between theory and practice.

Not something that’ll happen because the CEO says so, in most places; it’s more that the immediate supervisor / manager / director / AVP shows through actions that Acme Widgets sees learning as part of each person’s job.

I suppose it’s part of organization culture, which I think has to be cultivated in small areas as wel as large. When I worked for GE, the people at many meetings I attended arrived on time, stuck to the agenda, agreed to pursue side issues offline. Not every person, not every meeting, but there tended to be a supportive expectation (if you will) that this was how we worked in meetings.

On an individual level, I did find it helpful to listen to CDs via headphones. Over time, my most interruption-prone coworker came to see the headphones as meaning “sorry, I’m busy.” Sort of a combination headband and cone of silence…

]]> By: Dave Ferguson http://janetclarey.com/2007/08/02/i-do-not-work-in-the-nude-and-other-issues-with-working-and-learning-online/comment-page-1/#comment-4748 Dave Ferguson Mon, 20 Aug 2007 19:40:00 +0000 http://janetclarey.com/?p=292#comment-4748 Janet: I agree that ultimately it's the individual's responsibility. Even so, those whose job includes helping the group/organization get stuff done <i>(manager (noun): someone who gets other people to do the work)</i> can help bridge the gap (chasm?) between theory and practice. Not something that'll happen because the CEO says so, in most places; it's more that the immediate supervisor / manager / director / AVP shows through actions that Acme Widgets sees learning as part of each person's job. I suppose it's part of organization culture, which I think has to be cultivated in small areas as wel as large. When I worked for GE, the people at many meetings I attended arrived on time, stuck to the agenda, agreed to pursue side issues offline. Not every person, not every meeting, but there tended to be a supportive expectation (if you will) that this was how we worked in meetings. On an individual level, I did find it helpful to listen to CDs via headphones. Over time, my most interruption-prone coworker came to see the headphones as meaning "sorry, I'm busy." Sort of a combination headband and cone of silence... Janet:

I agree that ultimately it’s the individual’s responsibility. Even so, those whose job includes helping the group/organization get stuff done (manager (noun): someone who gets other people to do the work) can help bridge the gap (chasm?) between theory and practice.

Not something that’ll happen because the CEO says so, in most places; it’s more that the immediate supervisor / manager / director / AVP shows through actions that Acme Widgets sees learning as part of each person’s job.

I suppose it’s part of organization culture, which I think has to be cultivated in small areas as wel as large. When I worked for GE, the people at many meetings I attended arrived on time, stuck to the agenda, agreed to pursue side issues offline. Not every person, not every meeting, but there tended to be a supportive expectation (if you will) that this was how we worked in meetings.

On an individual level, I did find it helpful to listen to CDs via headphones. Over time, my most interruption-prone coworker came to see the headphones as meaning “sorry, I’m busy.” Sort of a combination headband and cone of silence…

]]> By: Janet Clarey http://janetclarey.com/2007/08/02/i-do-not-work-in-the-nude-and-other-issues-with-working-and-learning-online/comment-page-1/#comment-2364 Janet Clarey Mon, 20 Aug 2007 11:11:22 +0000 http://janetclarey.com/?p=292#comment-2364 Dave- "Possible" is interesting to contemplate. It asks the question: is the organization capable of permitting blocks of uninterrupted time? It reminds me of the whole 'you can't control what someone says only your reaction to it' mindset. The student ultimately must react to the possibility by demonstrating behavior that makes it possible. If enough people say 'no' (or whatever) eventually, a company will show support (and probably take credit for it later). Re: value (in the corporate environment). One must ask 'what's it (online learning) worth?' Do we do enough to show its value? Dave-
“Possible” is interesting to contemplate. It asks the question: is the organization capable of permitting blocks of uninterrupted time? It reminds me of the whole ‘you can’t control what someone says only your reaction to it’ mindset. The student ultimately must react to the possibility by demonstrating behavior that makes it possible. If enough people say ‘no’ (or whatever) eventually, a company will show support (and probably take credit for it later). Re: value (in the corporate environment). One must ask ‘what’s it (online learning) worth?’ Do we do enough to show its value?

]]> By: Janet Clarey http://janetclarey.com/2007/08/02/i-do-not-work-in-the-nude-and-other-issues-with-working-and-learning-online/comment-page-1/#comment-4747 Janet Clarey Mon, 20 Aug 2007 11:11:00 +0000 http://janetclarey.com/?p=292#comment-4747 Dave- "Possible" is interesting to contemplate. It asks the question: is the organization capable of permitting blocks of uninterrupted time? It reminds me of the whole 'you can't control what someone says only your reaction to it' mindset. The student ultimately must react to the possibility by demonstrating behavior that makes it possible. If enough people say 'no' (or whatever) eventually, a company will show support (and probably take credit for it later). Re: value (in the corporate environment). One must ask 'what's it (online learning) worth?' Do we do enough to show its value? Dave-
“Possible” is interesting to contemplate. It asks the question: is the organization capable of permitting blocks of uninterrupted time? It reminds me of the whole ‘you can’t control what someone says only your reaction to it’ mindset. The student ultimately must react to the possibility by demonstrating behavior that makes it possible. If enough people say ‘no’ (or whatever) eventually, a company will show support (and probably take credit for it later). Re: value (in the corporate environment). One must ask ‘what’s it (online learning) worth?’ Do we do enough to show its value?

]]> By: Dave Ferguson http://janetclarey.com/2007/08/02/i-do-not-work-in-the-nude-and-other-issues-with-working-and-learning-online/comment-page-1/#comment-2363 Dave Ferguson Sat, 18 Aug 2007 16:29:22 +0000 http://janetclarey.com/?p=292#comment-2363 Janet, I'd say another potential barrier to online learning in a corporate office setting is that often the organization doesn't value or permit blocks of uninterrupted time. This is similar to your items 1 (not real work) and 7 (no support), but more focused on whether the organization (or your manager or your peers) makes it <i>possible</i> for you to devote time during whatever your workday is for some specific, developmental activity. If you were away from your office attending the CEO's quarterly update or the Yoga for Green Belts session, most potential interruptions wouldn't have the ability to spring you loose. The same should apply to other activity that you and the organization value. So, yes, you need to say no, but the environment needs to encourage the saying (and the hearing) of no as well. Janet, I’d say another potential barrier to online learning in a corporate office setting is that often the organization doesn’t value or permit blocks of uninterrupted time. This is similar to your items 1 (not real work) and 7 (no support), but more focused on whether the organization (or your manager or your peers) makes it possible for you to devote time during whatever your workday is for some specific, developmental activity.

If you were away from your office attending the CEO’s quarterly update or the Yoga for Green Belts session, most potential interruptions wouldn’t have the ability to spring you loose. The same should apply to other activity that you and the organization value. So, yes, you need to say no, but the environment needs to encourage the saying (and the hearing) of no as well.

]]> By: Dave Ferguson http://janetclarey.com/2007/08/02/i-do-not-work-in-the-nude-and-other-issues-with-working-and-learning-online/comment-page-1/#comment-4746 Dave Ferguson Sat, 18 Aug 2007 16:29:00 +0000 http://janetclarey.com/?p=292#comment-4746 Janet, I'd say another potential barrier to online learning in a corporate office setting is that often the organization doesn't value or permit blocks of uninterrupted time. This is similar to your items 1 (not real work) and 7 (no support), but more focused on whether the organization (or your manager or your peers) makes it <i>possible</i> for you to devote time during whatever your workday is for some specific, developmental activity. If you were away from your office attending the CEO's quarterly update or the Yoga for Green Belts session, most potential interruptions wouldn't have the ability to spring you loose. The same should apply to other activity that you and the organization value. So, yes, you need to say no, but the environment needs to encourage the saying (and the hearing) of no as well. Janet, I’d say another potential barrier to online learning in a corporate office setting is that often the organization doesn’t value or permit blocks of uninterrupted time. This is similar to your items 1 (not real work) and 7 (no support), but more focused on whether the organization (or your manager or your peers) makes it possible for you to devote time during whatever your workday is for some specific, developmental activity.

If you were away from your office attending the CEO’s quarterly update or the Yoga for Green Belts session, most potential interruptions wouldn’t have the ability to spring you loose. The same should apply to other activity that you and the organization value. So, yes, you need to say no, but the environment needs to encourage the saying (and the hearing) of no as well.

]]> By: Daily Bookmarks 08/05/2007 « Experiencing E-Learning http://janetclarey.com/2007/08/02/i-do-not-work-in-the-nude-and-other-issues-with-working-and-learning-online/comment-page-1/#comment-2362 Daily Bookmarks 08/05/2007 « Experiencing E-Learning Sun, 05 Aug 2007 19:58:43 +0000 http://janetclarey.com/?p=292#comment-2362 [...] Experiencing E-Learning Building Experiences through Instructional Design and E-Learning « 8 Random Facts About Me Daily Bookmarks 08/05/2007 August 2nd, 2007 I do not work in the nude and other issues with working (and learning) online | Janet Clarey [...] [...] Experiencing E-Learning Building Experiences through Instructional Design and E-Learning « 8 Random Facts About Me Daily Bookmarks 08/05/2007 August 2nd, 2007 I do not work in the nude and other issues with working (and learning) online | Janet Clarey [...]

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